‘Our dignity grows through connection’: HUMA 180 students interview SCVN Research Assistant Lucie Kotesovska
On November 5, University of Victoria students Ananiah Bartsch and Lily Schaefer interviewed Survivor-Centred Visual Narratives (SCVN) research assistant Lucie Kotesovska. The interview took place online and was conducted as part of a practicum for HUMA 180: Encountering Humanities Research, one of the three courses that make up UVic’s Humanities Scholars program. This is the fourth time SCVN has had the pleasure of welcoming practicum students from HUMA 180. In this interview Lucie reflects on her involvement in the project, the realities of working with difficult stories, and the lessons she learned from her work as a research assistant.
Ananiah: We’ll just start with an easy question. Lucie, how did you become involved with this project and with Charlotte’s work?
Lucie: I was hired in summer 2024 as a research assistant for the project, and it happened through my home department, which is the English department at UVic. My official role was media communication and administration assistant. I think the team was specifically looking for somebody with strong editing and communication skills. They were seeking somebody to help them with the textual production and presentation of the project in textual terms. I was hired as a research assistant on these terms. Besides being an English major, I also had quite a rich previous experience with academic and professional writing, editing, copy editing, reviewing texts and translating. I forgot to mention that my first language is Czech, it’s not English. I’ve been moving between languages my whole life and it’s been a great passion and source of joy for me to be tinkering with words and learning new words and growing into new languages.

Lily: What drew you to the work of this project?
Lucie: That’s a great question. As I said, I’m passionate about working with and through the written and spoken word. That’s my primary tool in exploring the world and making sense of it for myself and others. So, to have this chance to pursue that passion and bring use to a large project was very attractive and meaningful to me.
Second, I was really excited about working as a part of a team, and supporting the team. I have to say that my PhD work was really lonely. It was quite an isolating experience because for a couple of years you’re just focused on this very niche area or super-specific subject. For me it was Irish poetry from the 1960s up to now. You start to miss human connection during this extensive research and writing project. Even though, of course you are connected with the selected poets quite deeply and intimately, but still … It’s natural for us as human beings, and also as humanists, to connect with people. So, I started to really, really miss that kind of interaction. And this was something which I found as a member of the project and this team. What also drew me to this teamwork was the appreciation of all kinds of talents and levels of expertise. The SCVN project hires junior researchers who just entered the field. So, there are team members like you and then senior researchers, professional scholars, who work in the field of trauma, genocide, history, human rights and so on. There’s this vast scale of various abilities and experiences. So, the team aspect was really a huge plus for me.
And third, I could sense a very strong humanistic mission in this project. You probably talked about the 4 pillars of the humanities mission at UVic in HUMA 180?
“Enrich human dignity” is the first one. And that’s very obvious with this project because of its focus on the survivors. It most emphatically contributes to making us feel and appreciate human dignity, especially in places and times when it was tread upon.
“Provoke critical inquiry” is the second pillar. This project has consistently critiqued some of the traditional scholarly approaches to history and memory. It has brought a new perspective, and a new medium because it is primarily visually oriented.
“Engaging myriad voices” the third pillar, is a very fitting one, because this project over a couple of years of its existence, has become global. Starting with Holocaust research, it has now spread to former Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Turtle Island and also Syria and Iraq. It comprises several research clusters while engaging many people globally – researchers, journalists, community members, and artists.
And there’s the fourth pillar, “inspire innovative expression, including the full plurality of media”. This project is really a great example of that. Searching for new ways to communicate messages and research to the wide public, not just the academic community, but to the public worldwide, to people of various generations and ages and milieus.
And I should not forget about the fourth reason that drew me to the project. I felt I could keep learning new things while being a part of it. That was a big one for me as well. I could just keep learning, and I was continually encouraged to do so as I was getting new tasks beyond my initial contract, but we’ll probably talk about that a bit later on.
Ananiah: You’ve touched on this briefly already, but what did your work, and what has your work entailed with the project? You’ve been working on a bunch of things, so could you tell us a little bit about what that’s looked like?
Lucie: As I said, it entailed various tasks, both short- and long-term ones. I think my major initial contribution and something I’m quite proud of still was the editing of transcripts from two webinar series which were organised by the project and the Public Humanities Hub at the UBC as a joint initiative. These were two series of talks with scholars, artists, journalists, and other professionals on the topics of trauma-informed research and art and testimony.
And my main goal was to make these webinars accessible through these transcriptions. These texts were posted online, and I tried to make their formats standardized across all the different episodes, speakers and topics.
Another major undertaking was working with students from HUMA 180 last academic year. Last fall, I was tasked with onboarding three HUMA students and with training them in transcribing while sharing my experience and some of the best practices. They each picked a webinar and transcribed the whole episode which is a substantial amount of work. Beside the transcription, they edited it all through making sure that all the names were spelled correctly, and all the places were correctly identified. It was a wonderful way of sharing what I learned on the project.
I also created content for the project’s blog. I wrote blog posts covering various events like exhibitions and upcoming talks, award ceremonies for artists on the project, film releases, and other things as well. I updated content for three of the project’s research clusters: Rwanda cluster, Holocaust cluster, and former Yugoslavia cluster.
It was my first time tinkering with website design. Speaking of learning things, I was really thrown into deep water here, but I enjoyed it immensely.
Ananiah: You wore all the hats!
Lily: Jack of all trades.
Lucie: Yes! Forrest Gump; that’s what I would say, Forrest Gump. But Jennifer Sauter, my supervisor, would say no, no, it’s like – think about it more like a Swiss knife: versatile and excellent in all circumstances.
Lily: What was something you found difficult while participating in the project?
Lucie: Sometimes it was prioritising, as I was often assigned several tasks at the same time. For instance, I felt very reluctant to break the blog-writing rhythm in order to go and fill in a travel reimbursement form or go and copy edit somebody else’s work, somebody else’s style while drafting my text. As a graduate student, I was constantly busy with other things as well. I tried my best to juggle several jobs at the same time. While I was working on this project as a research assistant, I was hired as a teaching assistant in the English department, and also as a tutor by the Academic Skills Centre, and during this whole time I kept working on my dissertation. Plus, I had a couple of kids at home.
Also, speaking of difficulty, I think it’s quite obviously the sheer amount of human suffering you face working through various materials and media across the project. It’s even more difficult given the fact that violence and social division and victimisation keep going on and on in the world. I’m not the only one saying this regarding work on this project. This is an issue that I notice every team member has to deal with. Historically speaking, we live in a very difficult moment for our world right now. There seems to be no end to the trauma inflicted. Working on this project makes you painfully aware of this fact.
Ananiah: Lucie, how is it that you take care of yourself when you’re involved in a project that has so much human suffering? How are you looking after yourself to make sure that you were not being crushed or consumed by the weight of the project?
Lucie: That’s such an important question. I talked to people on the project about this and it helped sharing these concerns. We were advised to take breaks from the materials, like those transcriptions. We are speaking of dozens of pages of text on very heavy things. We were encouraged to take breaks and talk to other team members or stop working for a week or two in order to process the feelings that were coming up as we needed to. I would say this is also something that I’ve been asking myself as a literary scholar for a long time, because I focus on Irish poetry that was written during the time of The Troubles in the second half of the 20th century.
You’ve probably heard about this conflict in Northern Ireland. It was a very violent one, tearing up families and communities. It is still hard for me to believe that it went on in Europe during my childhood years. So I’ve been thinking a lot about this question and honestly, I came to the conclusion that while we can never completely escape these traumas, personal, generational or cultural ones and stay unharmed, it’s essential that we learn to be aware of our feelings, and also learn to be responsible for the way we handle them; how we express them as well as whether and how we communicate them further.
As I mentioned, I grew up in the Czech Republic in a culture which, as a heritage of the forty years of Communist regime, was emotionally repressive to say the least. I realized this fact only years later in my early adulthood.
To compensate for this, I actively made efforts to learn to feel–not just feel, because this is the part that comes to us naturally–but to be able to notice these feelings, to describe them to myself, label them, and express them safely and, when I am lucky, creatively. Literature has been a tremendous help in this sense. Being a literary scholar, I have been able to see what is going on inside other people and how they handle their emotions. It is not an exaggeration to say that literature helps us stay sane and stay alive.
I’m trying now to share this vocabulary I learned with my kids. For example, we read books on this topic together. One of our favourites is called In My Heart and it’s about a girl naming her emotions and has beautiful illustrations that help children explore big feelings such as anger or sadness. It will say “I’m angry,” and explain visually what that means. I also plan to teach emotional literacy in one of my courses in spring, in the English department.
For me, this is an essential skill for us as human beings, because we’re connected through and in the heart. So, coming back to your question, I think that this emotional self-awareness has helped me greatly when I was dealing with this sensitive and almost soul-crushing material. Another thing has been helpful besides taking long walks in Victoria, which is a great, great town for solitary walks, and that’s reading. While engaged on the project, I did some reading that was really helpful to me.
I’ll mention just one title. I’m reading it right now, actually. I realised early on that there’s a link between my work on the project and how I felt about it, and this reading. The title of the book is Saved from Sacrifice: A Theology of the Cross and was written by S. Mark Heim.
It has helped me to understand the sacrificial mechanism in practically all human civilizations, and also, how truly transformational and revolutionary it is when the victim can find a voice or can be given the voice and also has a name and is remembered through their narrative.
Lily: Self-documentation.
Lucie: Yes, right. And this is exactly what the project has been trying to do all along. So yes, reading also helped me. I’m sorry if this answer was a bit long.
Ananiah: No, no, no, I appreciate it.
Lucie: Just to conclude, I think emotional awareness and self-awareness are super important. That’s the key. As I said, we cannot be safe from harm, [it will happen] probably just by living.
Ananiah: Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that answer.
Lucie: Thank you for asking these questions. This topic is so important, and it resonates with people, but is not always communicated sufficiently and adequately. And we don’t realise sometimes, entering humanities especially, how big is the part of our own existence and experience we bring in.
Lily: Can you tell us about a moment or memory, positive or negative, that stands out to you?
Lucie: I have a great memory of the interview I did with a German artist, Barbara Yelin. Just to give you some quick information on who Barbara Yelin is and how she’s connected to the project–she did an interview with Emmie Arbel, a child Holocaust survivor, and from this interview came a story titled “But I Live” which was published in 2022. And then she developed this story, which was originally about 40 pages long, into a book-length line visual narratives, titled The Colour of Memory. Emmy Arbel. I interviewed with her in July for the project blog… We talked about the various techniques she uses and the philosophy behind her art. And we also talked about her relationship with Emmie and how it evolved and how in turn this evolution affected Barbara’s approach to visual storytelling. For me, it was really fascinating to listen to how she talked about the limits of verbal expression and verbal memory, about moments where only our body knows the truth of what happened to us. We sometimes lack words to talk about these things, and we might be resisting them because we don’t want to go in there. But something or someone makes us visit them. So how do you do that? How do you recreate it in pictures when you don’t have the words? These questions were immensely interesting.
Barbara said that sometimes she had only colour to work with, she didn’t even have the shapes. That was really fascinating. And there was a moment when she talked about Emmie’s face fading from the page in the book. It was the moment when Emmy tried to remember, I think, the last moment with her mom.
Emmie’s face is fading from the picture. It is lost in this painful remembering, and the visual panel or square is only blue and black. That is all there is on the page. And at that time, Barbara was on the screen because we were on Zoom, and she herself almost became just the mouth and the eyes. And it was dark because it was noon in Victoria and late evening in Munich where she was.
And moments like this would always bring home the essential truth of the project regarding connecting as human beings. It is the undeniable and universal fact that our dignity grows and flourishes through connection, through cultivating relationships, and through genuine curiosity in one another. And, on the contrary, it is endangered and destroyed when these connections are broken as happens in wars and conflicts of all kinds. So that is still my favourite and fond memory.
Ananiah: What is a lesson or an idea that you learned from this project that you’ve carried forward in your career?
Lucie: I would like to mention two things I learned while working on the project. First, I came to feel that there’s hope for humanities in the world today. As long as they are willing to embrace new ways of research, engage new voices, and provide testimonies to untold stories. And the second thing: I believe there’s some hope for humanity in the world today as well. There’s ongoing violence and conflicts escalating all over the world, all around the globe. At the same time, there are distinct voices heard that clearly understand the cost and the damage that’s being done and that’s affecting whole generations. And I think this project is a voice of this hope. It’s a voice that promotes survivors’ and also personal and interpersonal healing.
Ananiah: Thank you, I appreciate that. A lot of the narratives in the world are counter to hope, so I appreciate that insight and that perspective.
Lucie: So true. Yeah, I know. Sometimes it seems like a lost cause altogether. Doing this kind of work, doing this research, and being in the humanities. So many people will be dissuading you, and challenging you and doubting you, but it’s so immensely important, because we’re now wielding various technologies, but who’s going to reflect upon this development? Who’s going to draw the bigger picture here? Humanities bring this wholeness in terms of contextualizing things, and that’s so important. That’s the only way we can really restore hope and faith in anything. So, yeah. Thank you guys for your great questions. I really enjoyed reflecting upon my time on this project. It’s been quite exceptional.
Ananiah: Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you so much. It has been so wonderful to hear from you. And again, I appreciate you making the time with your busy schedule and your international excursions.
SCVN would like to thank Ananiah and Lily for their work planning, conducting, and transcribing this interview. Our blog post about last year’s HUMA 180 practicum can be found here.


























